in december. they think it's going to be less than the original bid. starting to look at which private equity players are with him and which are not. your thoughts? >> you know, i checked in on that earlier this week, carl. at least based on a couple of phone calls. and i wouldn't say that i did an enormous amount of reporting. i think we'll have to wait until after thanksgiving, is the sense i got. don't forget, look at that stock. they were talking, what, 25 or above. you know, why would you offer that kind of a premium when the stock has fallen so dramatically since this first began? even with the idea that it would be a lower number, which does make some sense, one would imagine, nonetheless, you're still talking about a $3 billion equity check. now, a lot of that -- at least half, perhaps, going to come from mr. schultz himself as he moves his equity over. raising $1.5 billion from private equity, let's call it, is still a very, very big problem, or at least let's call it a tough thing to do.